Season 5 E1: Oprah's Meghan & Harry Interview, Colorism and Courage - Sage B. Hobbs
Season 5 E1: Oprah’s Meghan & Harry Interview, Colorism and Courage


Sage and Erica stumble through another naked conversation, reliving watching Oprah’s explosive interview with Harry and Meghan and digging into the ugly roots of colorism while throwing shade on the systems that created it. Then Sage makes a bold discovery, and an apology.

In this show we're talking about:

  • A moment of silence for victims of the shootings and violence against Asian-Americans
  • Reflections on Meghan Markle’s courage to fight the cowardice of racism
  • The plot of the patriarchy to divide and destroy marginalized groups, and how it’s working
  • How to raise Culturally Competent Kids: a workshop for parents who want to change the course of racism by having real conversations about it with their kids

Thank you thank you for listening to the show. It is such an honor to have these conversations with you. They are necessary and needed and we are here to do the work.

Xo, Sage & Erica

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